On Ben Rosenthal said
Interesting. I haven’t seen that yet for that game, and I haven’t been able to see any videos posted online yet, either. If you’re not losing any wilds on that 10th and final spin on the counter, it sounds like it’s still beatable. And as you wrote, the location won’t matter in that case, either.
It may even be a little easier to look for plays, as you won’t have to factor in location. So, like the original, you’re going to want to be late in the counter, ideally, as you’re still paying for all those spins to reach 10. In the game write-up, it would make a board like that second photo much more valuable.
I wrote, “I’d lean no, even though it’s spin nine of 10 and you only need to invest one bet for those to all turn wild. Because they’re mostly so far to the right, you’re unlikely to get enough connecting symbols to make them factor in.”
But if those are now moving to random spaces on the screen and you’re investing just one spin, it goes from “leaning no” to “emphatic yes.” Having not played this version or heard about it yet, I’d go case-by-case for now. Something like five wilds on game 5 of 10 or later in the cycle, I’d be a player. But there may be more nuance to it that I’m not aware of yet.
Ya I hate it, its reminds of me what you said about extra features essentially always being bad for the AP. I cant imagine its random and I’m sure it has bias to the left reels rather than right but another AP lady checks it all the time so it has to be winning. Both machines look exactly like your video its weird but on we fight.
On Nickels said
Regarding Spy vs. Spy.
Though it’s really tough to find now, I remember playing that one a lot from 2017-2019ish. The way the game worked was that it would switch between black and white, depending on which symbol most recently landed. It’s been such a long time since I’ve played it so please forgive if some of the details are off.
As I recall there were white/black bars, spys and 7s. Each time one of the same color lands on the reels (maybe it was just the 3rd reel) you collect the corresponding credit prize and it increases, if there was no credit prize yet, you wouldn’t be awarded anything (unless the paylines connected) and it would unlock the first credit prize.
The credit prize increment depends on how much the player is betting when they increase it, but it’s stable across all bet levels. So when somebody leaves a play, you’re always betting the minimum because the credit prizes are the same anyway.
If memory serves me correctly, hustlers were playing with any credit prize on the 7, or at least 300 credits on the bar or spy. You play until it switches to the other color, sometimes that happens immediately, sometimes you just never connect anything and you lose, but you’ll almost never lose very much. Occasionally you’ll go on a run of hitting symbols, so the prize keeps going up and you get awarded the prizes over and over again. The most common outcome though is winning a couple bucks, maybe even just one dollar and then it switches. The 7s are where the most value is.
The best situation is to have a civilian playing the maximum, they’ll almost always leave a play behind because the credit prize increments are based on the triggering bet, but you can collect them at any bet. The strategy is always to bet the minimum (50 credits) for that reason.
All of that said, I haven’t seen one of these in a casino in years. I’m sure there’s one or two out there somewhere, hell, I know were a couple of S&H Green Stamps are still located, some casinos are like time capsules, but it’s going to be super rare and not worth a whole lot.
Nickels! Whats up dude, I have listened to a few your podcasts now and enjoyed them thanks for the help. It’s cool to know I can ask you a question if it comes up.
Yes the machine I am referring to works exactly like you described. I think I got the picture. Heard you on the min bet always and what a dream set up looks like. I think im obsessed with this one irrationally because I know it and the slot hustles dont . You the man
Raymond Snell
