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richard rakayShort Coin Charlie
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    This is getting to be a longer thread, and I’m responding without a complete review. Apologies if I bring up anything that has already been addressed (but I’m too busy posting to read all that)

    First comment is that I get a few plays here and there on the widely available Konami Quick Strikes (with the “Range” of the Minor from $25 to $50 and the Range of the Major from $250 to $100). Most of my plays are on the Minor because that’s what I seem to find. For someone like me, and for anyone who’s new to being a slot AP, we are going to want a calculator with more precision on the entry point if that’s possible. When playing for a Minor, I usually ignore the Major meter is and figure out the EV for the meter by itself. So I would like a calculator that makes precise, lower denominations on the main calculator – something like $46.55 may or may not be a play, depending on the reset point and the meter rise, etc.

    Second comment is a little longer, and again, parts of this may have already been addressed above. I’m still not 100% sure what Base Return I’m supposed to be entering. Is it

    a) the RTP of the machine as a whole, day in day out – this would be the easiest for me to hazard a guess at

    Suppose we have two Konami machines side by side, one is just a regular slot machine, another is a Quick Strike MHB. I think it’s fair to  assume that if Casino Raisonable sets their RTP on most machines to 90%, then it would be fair to assume 90% for both Machines A and B. It’s just that the 90% return in Machine A comes from base game and bonuses only, while the 90% return of Machine B comes from base game, bonuses, and the MHB meters

    See the second picture – there are Konami MHBs out there with 0.25% meter rise on the Major, 0.75% rise on the Minor. If the Base RTP of that configuration happens to be 90%, then the Base RTP is only 87% without the MHB component. Base RTP without MHB depends on the meter rise, a higher meter rise will lower the RTP of the reels-only, if we assume that the machine as a whole must return 90%.

    b) the RTP of the reels-only – this would be nearly impossible for me to estimate on the floor, because it depends on a number of variables (see second picture and also comments just above)

    It’s important to keep in mind that this RTP figure and in a) above, especially on Konami games, includes the EV of astronomical line hits that we will likely never hit, or at least not hit while pursuing a Minor meter. (I’m referring to line hits like a perfect board of the top paying symbol or being awarded 500 or more bonus spins, possibly hitting a taxable jackpot, etc.)

    c) the RTP I am expecting to have while playing/waiting for the jackpot(s) to arrive. This is also easy to estimate because it’s more of a measure of a player’s risk tolerance (as in, “I could easily lose 50% of my coin in on the base game while waiting, and I don’t feel like losing $300 going for a $50 prize today, so I will assume I’m going to get taken off at 50% while waiting)

    So I’m still not sure which of these I should input to the calculator.

    Disclaimer: others have probably presented these same ideas elsewhere, and presented them more clearly than I have in my picture. But I didn’t copy anyone’s work, and I also offer no guarantees that my calculations are error-free

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